ChaosMen: Ivan & Vance (Raw)

Ivan is headed off for foreign lands, and he wanted to do a video before being out of commission for a while. He figured he would go out with a bang, and finally agreed it was time for him to not only suck some dick, but to take it up the ass.

I wanted someone who had experience but wouldn’t split him in two and scare him away from doing more.

Vance was just the man, and I thought I would get out the ‘ole massage table to do the scene on.

Usually the “top” takes control, and Ivan has struggled with knowing what to do.

So it is great to see him be more passive, and Vance takes control of the situation.

What is so awesome about this video is Ivan is clearly turned on by this. His dick rarely wilts, and it’s so cool to see his dick hard with a butt plug up his ass, and a cock in his mouth!

In between takes, he was basically commenting, “Golly gee, I think I can cum while being fucked!” Duh! He was always very skeptical that the guys he was fucking were actually enjoying it.

Never one to pass up that opportunity, we recycled the “on his back, legs in the air” position. Vance tentatively fucked him until he nuts. He pulls out just as he is cumming, but overall, a pretty good “fuck the cum out of your buddy” shot. You can tell Vance thinks Ivan will not nut if he pokes him too much, but Ivan is yelling “Harder!” What a reversal!

Vance has a tough time playing catch up, so it takes him a minute or two to bust. Ivan’s dick goes down, but the cum is still wet when Vance nuts all over Ivan’s spent cock.

It’s a very hot video where Ivan finally gets a cock in his mouth and ass!

Watch Ivan & Vance at ChaosMen.com

David says:

July 11, 2009 at 12:07 am

Looks hot. Gage (Vance) is so cute!

bert says:

July 11, 2009 at 12:50 am

Maybe it’s just me but something about “Vance” changed… I’m not into him anymore.

Zane says:

July 11, 2009 at 1:03 am

It’s not just you, Bert. He’s boring to me now too. I think he was much hotter when the fur was thicker and he was tanner. Plus, he’s a dead-behind-the-eyes fuck. Lots of noise, but he looks like he could be reading the paper for all the pleasure on his face.

Nick says:

July 11, 2009 at 1:09 am

^ That’s why I laugh when people say men in porn aren’t exploited.

Rick_Roderick_elPaso says:

July 11, 2009 at 1:32 am

Isn’t this how AIDS started?

Anton says:

July 11, 2009 at 1:38 am

Well, going back to Gage/Vance’s days at SeanCody, I was never into him for the simple fact that Cody made it abundantly clear in Gage’s solo that Gage is a radical wingnut. Perhaps I’m shallow, and maybe he has changed since then, but it’s hard for me to masturbate to a guy who probably probably considers me and others inferior in some way. Plus, I don’t care too much for gay-for-pay performers, you can tell in their scenes that they’re counting the minutes until the shoot is over so they can go collect their checks.

Yes, Gage is sexy and exudes masculinity, but I refuse to masturbate to a rabid right winger who wouldn’t waste anytime voting for someone like Sarah Palin — or hell Rush Limbaugh — for president if given the chance.

Kyle Ryan says:

July 11, 2009 at 1:39 am

YEA!!! Vance is back. That furry body is fabulous. I’m glad his arm healed. This is hot to watch because ChaosMen vids are about sex and pleasure and making we the viewers happy, not about mechanical posing and boring scene set-ups.

Tobias says:

July 11, 2009 at 1:42 am

Vance has the best hairy chest in Internet porn, no doubt about it. He’s fun to watch, and he and Ivan are enjoying what they are doing. I love this one.

Sophomore says:

July 11, 2009 at 1:42 am

Have to agree with Bert and Zane re Vance/Gage. He made a big splash on Sean Cody and has never regained that initial appeal.

Vinnie Niagara says:

July 11, 2009 at 1:51 am

Hey Anton, why would you believe anything Sean Cody writes? Also, you truly misinterpreted what Gage (he was Gage back then) said. Truly misinterpreted; therefore, we can’t believe a word YOU’RE writing.

I just watched this video and it is a good one because both guys enjoy having sex. That’s why we watch gay porn. Both are cute and sexy and sexual. I recommend this one for newbys to CM. I love that Vance can stay hard for so-o-o long. He really delights in being gay and in fucking a man.

Brandon 88 says:

July 11, 2009 at 2:01 am

Would love me some Vance. He’s hot wherever he is – SC, RB, or here on CM. That chest is a dream. Ivan is a great little bottom.

Jason M in Charlotte, NC says:

July 11, 2009 at 2:05 am

Hey Anton – you’re nuts. Gage/Vance didn’t say anything like that on Sean Cody. I’m just happy to be looking at that hairy chest again. Good sequence for both of these cute gay men if you like fun gay porn.

Anton says:

July 11, 2009 at 2:12 am

Oh, shut up, Vinnie and Jason. No one misinterpreted anything. (I was joking about the Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh bit, by the way.) Anyway, the boy is from Texas (Bushville) and I have no reason to doubt that he’s a wingnut because I’m sure he would’ve told Cody not to add that in the little bio (unless Cody added the “very, very conservative” tag to Gage as a way to make him look more masculine and heterosexual, pandering to those self-haters who worship that sort of thing). Sure, Cody makes up a lot of shit in those blurbs, but Gage is the only one where he wrote that he’s extremely conservative. I think when Cody writes those blurbs in some cases it’s 50% biographical and the other 50% bullshit.

But if that’s the type of guys two are interested in, a hairy, masculine, bible-thumping wingnut from Texas, someone who probably laughs at all the money he gets from deluded queers that worship him — Oooo he’s so hairy, so masculine, so manly, blah, blah, blah — good for you. You stick with watching your old Gage videos at SC, I’ll stick with watching the ones that featured Ajay (someone far more sexier than Gage).

Jason M in Charlotte, NC says:

July 11, 2009 at 2:21 am

So, why write something so pathetic if you’re joking, Anton? Basically, you lied. I smell some kind of jealousy from you. What Sean Cody wrote – not what Gage said, but what Sean Cody WROTE is this: “He comes from a religious family and he’s far right in many, many ways. But, he’s very open sexually and seems curious about trying new things. So, he’s a fascinating dichotomy and I’m looking forward to seeing how his experimentation progresses.” You CAN be religious AND gay and enjoy gay sex, Anton. That would explain all the gay priests. And, we know how Gage/Vance has progessed. You really should be ashamed of yourself Anton for writing such drivel. That puts you IN a league with Limbaugh. What happened Anton? Did Vance turn you down at a bar in Austin?

Garrett says:

July 11, 2009 at 2:26 am

Putting words in somebody’s mouth is really despicable, Anton. You should be ashamed of yourself. What an asshole.

Anton says:

July 11, 2009 at 2:37 am

Oh lord. I just knew the stanch Gage defenders would get angry with what I wrote. *rolls eyes*

I didn’t lie about anything, Jason. Scroll up and read my post again, sweetheart. I didn’t say that Gage said any of those things, those things I wrote were MY assumptions based on the little tidbit that Cody wrote. It’s the same way you always assume on practically ALL of Sean Cody’s updates that he’s a self-hater and promotes homophobia. (Which I find funny since you forever peg Sean Cody as a self-hating homophobe, yet you’re a big fan of a gay that’s probably a freeper. Lol.) Sorry, but if you’re staunchly religious, politically lean to the far right, and performs gay sex on videos, then I definitely see some contradictions and confusion there.

Ashamed? Nope. Not ashamed at all. If anything it’s Gage’s fans who should be ashamed for lusting over some far right freeper who only cares about making quick money by pandering to deluded fools. Again, if you like him, fine, good for you, but don’t get pissed off when others are turned-off by him.

Anton says:

July 11, 2009 at 2:54 am

By the way, the reason why I make these assumptions about him, too, because I know for a fact that the guy is married and has kids, and one of the reasons why he does gay porn is to support his family. So taking that and combining it with what Sean Cody wrote about him, I came to the conclusion that the guy is probably a far right religious nut who saw gay porn as his only option to make quick and easy money.

Simply put: I find him to be a phony, someone conflicted with his sexuality due to his religious and political beliefs. If anything, Jason, Gage should be the type of guy that you deride because he perfectly fits the self-hating, pseudo-straight stereotype that Sean Cody often prances around on his site. Hell, he epitomizes it! Oh, but he’s sooooooo hairy and masculine, I forgot! *rolls eyes*

geoffy23 says:

July 11, 2009 at 5:40 am

I just think everyone is *rolling eyes* at Anton.

This scene is hot..yummy! Love Ivan’s moans as he’s cumming while getting fucked!

Anton says:

July 11, 2009 at 6:30 am

Well, whatever, I stated my opinion (didn’t once put words in the guys mouth) but because he’s one of the “scared ones” here at WayBig, I get an onslaught of hate. No worries, tho, I love y’all, too! Mwah! Mwah!

Anywho! I agree with Zane and Bert that he isn’t even as appealing nowadays compared to his stint at SeanCody. When you become so overly-exposed in porn, it’s time to take a vacation. “Vance” has reached the Mason Wyler/Leo Giamani/AJ Irons level of over-exposure.

MM says:

July 11, 2009 at 6:40 am

good since gage is a right wing nut I won’t care when he catches a disease and dies. nor when his church finds out what a deviant he is and he is found shot to death ala that minister in tennessee who was blasted by his wife.this is sick whether he is gay or crazy.raw is killing gay men, it needs to stop.

rich says:

July 11, 2009 at 7:07 am

What about Ivan, I’ve always thought he is a cute boy, and what an amazing ass!!!! It was good to see him get fucked, even having toys used on him. I have to rearrange my budget to rejoin CM. You guys used all of this posting to talk about Vance (who is hot), but no mention of hot boy Ivan?

Gaping Hole says:

July 11, 2009 at 7:22 am

Anton post the proof that he is married with kids, because at the moment all it sounds like is yet more lies.

Though that is the funniest thing I have heard today, Vance has been in gay porn scene for years and has done nearly everything and everyone.

Though Vance is hot and the scene looks good.

Jude Troy says:

July 11, 2009 at 7:30 am

Didn’t you think anyone would check, Anton? How sad for you. I don’t know who’s a bigger fool, you or MM. Nobody believes anything Sean Cody writes. And MM is just an idiot.

This scene between Vance and Ivan is solid because both of these gay guys are cute and personable and sexy and fun to watch. ChaosMen has porn that fits the fantasy definition of porn and is well-made and honest and easy on the eyes.

Foxy Bill Shepard in NYC says:

July 11, 2009 at 7:37 am

Anton and MM – two sick peas in a very sad pod.

Vance and Ivan – two cool and attractive gay guys getting it on in bed the way we like it.

Korby says:

July 11, 2009 at 9:21 am

@Anton: Let’s pretend Sean Cody was being truthful in the first write-up year ago. Why would you then conclude that after years of being around gay men and in gay porn that Vance’s ideas hadn’t changed?

Will says:

July 11, 2009 at 9:24 am

Anton: My partner and I met in college. At that time he was left-of-center politically and fervently believed (almost) all of the liberal pieties. Fifteen years on he’s right-of-center and believes (almost) all of the conservative pieties. He’s still the bright, charming, generous and loving guy I fell in love with, it’s just his politics that has changed. (Oh, and did I mention he’s handsome and has a big dick?) Am I madly in love with this guy? Yes. Did he vote for McCain? Yes. Do I really care? Not really. A man’s life is far larger and more complex (and, happily, contradictory) than political attitude. Give (the imagined) Gage a break. (Plus he’s handsome and has a big dick.)

Nick says:

July 11, 2009 at 10:19 am

I’m not sure why you think SeanCody would lie about something like that. I’ve never even seen him mention politics on the site, so it’s obvious to me that Gage told Sean Cody he was a conservative and Sean Cody printed it. Sean only writes down what the guys tell him.

Dave says:

July 11, 2009 at 10:45 am

6 pics down, that ass, WOW!

Calvin says:

July 11, 2009 at 10:52 am

I like Vance/Gage and I believe Anton too. I would not turn down neither of them.

Wow says:

July 11, 2009 at 12:36 pm

“Sean only writes down what the guys tell him”
“The check is in the mail”
“I won’t cum in your mouth”
“Of course I’ve been tested”
“Read my lips: no new taxes”

Sean Cody Employee says:

July 11, 2009 at 1:20 pm

As a Sean Cody employee I have to say that it is true that Sean writes down what the guys tell him about themselves. Occasionally, he changes a few minor things (never orientation; whatever the guys tell him on that front he writes [even if he questions their answer]) like where they’re from or sports they like. Stuff that no one really cares about. I can say with 100% certainty that Sean did not just invent a story about Vance/Gage being a conservative. For what? Gage told Sean about his conservative beliefs in a dinner conversation when Sean asked him why he wanted to do porn. Gage said something to the effect of wanting to do something completely out of character for him. When asked why porn was out of character he told us about his conservative background. I would know as I was there. Sean (as did I) found it really interesting and added it to the bio. And that’s what happened. FWIW, I think he’s moderated a bit over the past couple of years.

NASA Employee says:

July 11, 2009 at 2:09 pm

and i guess this means I really work for NASA. how about that moon eh?

XYZ-1 (º¿º) says:

July 11, 2009 at 2:48 pm

Ivan and Vance are both cute and hotties….however this would have been much hotter if it was a flip-flop.

RNC member says:

July 11, 2009 at 4:20 pm

Who cares if someone is a right winger? I am a conservative and am gay. And if you cant stand Sarah Palin, then you are fucking retarded. A person who believes in smaller government, less taxes and strong national defense is by far a person who is better suited for public office than this dick that sits in the Oval Office now.

MM says:

July 11, 2009 at 4:33 pm

FRAUD FRAUD. YOU ARE A FRAUD Sean Cody asslicker EMPLOYEE & RNC asshole member. vance is about as gay as the rest of us. this Sean Cody bio garbage is about as real as obamas change.
look it’s a BAD porno.enough said.

Anton says:

July 11, 2009 at 5:16 pm

Wow … RNC member. That’s all I’m going to say to that comment … just … wow. *shakes head with disbelief*

Let me put it like this: had Sean Cody not mention in Gage’s bio that Gage leans to the far right in many ways (and when I hear the term “far right” I automatically think of raging homophones like Ann Coulter, Newt Gingrich, Bill O’Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage, etc.) Gage would’ve probably been a favorite of mine. It’s just that I couldn’t get pass that. Maybe that’s me being too judgmental or critical about such things, and if I offended anyone by my first post, I do apologize. I didn’t mean to turn this into a purity test or anything. I’ll even admit that there were a few videos of Gage’s at Sean Cody and RB that I liked (I liked his video with Trent Davis at RB quite a lot).

I don’t know the guy personally so perhaps I shouldn’t have painted him with such a broad brush. But that’s what one do when one have such little information on a person to begin with. Hopefully he has progressed and isn’t “far right” any longer. From what others have said about him, those who have worked with him or know him personally, he sounds like an open-minded, pragmatic sort of guy. So I should probably give him the benefit of doubt.

Anton says:

July 11, 2009 at 5:20 pm

I meant to say “raging homophobes”. Sorry about that.

RNC member says:

July 11, 2009 at 6:18 pm

Being far right is much better for this country than the loons on the far left. Ann Coulter, Bill O’reilly and Newt Gingrich only speak the truth

Jay says:

July 11, 2009 at 7:49 pm

^ LOL.

Chrissypoo says:

July 11, 2009 at 11:26 pm

I know that Gage (Michael to people who know him) lives in Northern Texas from the same town as Mark Dalton. I don’t know if he is married or has kids. He seems very young to be married when he first started doing porn.

If he is, I feel sorry for his wife as him doing bareback porn would probably expose her to diseases (I’ve never heard of the smaller online porn companies requiring testing like Falcon does).

I think, like many porn stars, he’s bisexual and afraid to admit this. I’ve had sex with plenty of amateur porn guys who have supposedly been “gay for pay” without ever paying them. It’s more as if they are situationally bisexual — if they are horny and there aren’t any women available, they figure why not. I’ve done a bunch of Military Classified Guys and Dirk Yates guys. Never paid one of them.

I know enough of the webmasters who have sex with their models before they are ever put to film.

Trey says:

July 11, 2009 at 11:40 pm

Well, it seems laughable to me that he would be afraid to admit he’s bisexual. Isn’t appearing repeatedly in gay porn kind of admitting you ain’t all that str8? These porn dudes are a mess.

Sophomore says:

July 12, 2009 at 12:05 am

When we start investing so much in our porn stars possible political positions based on dubious sources it’s time to put away the lube.

nycsexguy says:

July 12, 2009 at 12:29 am

Chrissypoo, which MC guys have you had sex with? My favorite was Randall, who was such a little cutie. (I liked Jack a lot, too, but he seemed like he had a lot of issues.)

Chrissypoo says:

July 12, 2009 at 12:52 am

Randall, Casey, Wesley and Jake. I’m going to see Randall in 2 weeks when I go down to San Diego.

Wesley is interesting. Straight but it seems like a few marine chasers also had him. Loves to be rimmed.

And you are right that Jack has a ton of issues. He let me inspect and feel his cock and balls, but wanted me to pay to have sex with him. Sorry, I don’t pay marines to have sex.

Gaping Hole says:

July 12, 2009 at 2:39 am

Best Comment made in this thread: Sean Cosy posts truthful bios. Utter Bullshit.

That black guy Geoff he had on a couple of weeks ago was painted as some sales rep when in fact he was a garbage worker.

Go and see the proof for yourselves, follow the links in the comments post section.

Sean Cody Employee says:

July 12, 2009 at 8:43 am

^ Uh, that’s what Geoff told him. What are you people not getting?

Chrissypoo says:

July 13, 2009 at 4:53 pm

So I gues if Geoff told Sean he was a space alien, I guess Sean will post it.

mike says:

July 15, 2009 at 12:01 am

i agree with Rich, i think Ivan is really hot. it’s nice to see Ivan have his mouth and asshole stuffed with dick this time around. And the other guy is hot as well. I joined chaosmen for Ivan’s first vid with Teo, another hottie, and am thinking about joining again to watch this and Ivan’s other vids.

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