Corbin Fisher: Marco

Marco at CorbinFisher

Marco at CorbinFisher
Marco at CorbinFisher

Marco at CorbinFisher
Marco at CorbinFisher

Marco Solo at Corbin Fisher:

Corbin Fisher’s newest freshman, Marco (a.k.a. Kain Rage at The Guy Site), hails from down on the bayou, as I’m sure you can tell from his sexy accent.

The main word that this young stud would use to describe himself is “happy,” and we definitely see why! Whether spending time in the gym, or just hanging out with his friends, Marco has a happy-go-lucky vibe; not to mention a ripped physique.

Marco’s got smoldering good looks, and feels really at home in front of the camera. These are two things that we can’t get enough of around here!

Watch Marco at Corbin Fisher

Watch Marco at Corbin Fisher

Redphyro says:

Max Elian and Beau is already waiting for that furry ass. Hope he really comes back!

Proud Nerve says:

He will come back… to fuck a fish

Jasper Taft says:

Max/Marco and Elian/Marco are scenes that need to happen.

Redphyro says:

A 3way free for all fuckfest needs to happen.

Jasper Taft says:

Indeed, with Max bottoming. Two Latin studs fucking Max and turning him into a whore, now *THAT* would be the fucking scene of the year. But I could totally see Corbin Fisher missing that opportunity, cause…

Burkeman says:

Am I the only one who hopes that cute faced muscular man soon returns to bottom again and again?

Jasper Taft says:

I’d like to see him top. He looks like he could be the new Marc. In fact, I wonder if the name Marco was a nod to Marc. Corbin Fisher has been known to do things like that in the past.

von schlomo says:

Marc was one of my favorites. What is it that harkens back to Marc? Off-hand, Marc seems quite a bit cuter, much more dark, more tattoos and smooth. I more enjoyed Marc bottoming as his dick and/or hard-on was less than compelling fucking ass.

Jasper Taft says:

Yes, I love Marc. To answer your question, Latin stud with a goatee and similar name. Although it didn’t reflect in the names, I thought Cameron was the new Logan. Both were outgoing, talkative blonde jokesters and loveable goofballs. But that’s almost paying Cameron a compliment because as wonderful as Cameron was, he could never touch Logan. Logan was a one-of-a-kind gem that will never be replaced.

von schlomo says:

Marco doesn’t look all that Latin or Latino or Hispanic to me, or enough to describe him as such. Goatee? Facial hair is ubiquitous. As for the actual name “Marco”, your saying the name choice is itself a sign of connection with Marc or that instead, its evidence in and of itself? In other words, imagine my name is Sven, am I Norwegian or Swedish or whatever it is because I’m Sven or because I look like a Sven?

You’re saying Jeff’s real name is Tom? And because CF’s “Tom” resembled Jeff, he called him Tom? I guess even if all this is true, how many times did it happen? There’s been how many hundreds of models on Corbin Fisher now and how many times did Corbin Fisher do this bizarre naming routine by using a previous model’s real name?

Finally, Tom is the poor man’s Jeff and Rudy is the super poor man’s Lucas. Perhaps my lack of enthusiasm is merely that I’m not so interested in rather thin physical connections between Corbin Fisher performers. I very often see folks writing about how a performer looks like another and when I consider these connections I mostly see differences than similarities. I think it must stem from a more imaginative and artistic mind than I have.

Jasper Taft says:

Or maybe you’re just overthinking things. I know you’re not a Tom fan. I’m not going to go back and count all the times it happened, but Jason is known to make plays on names. Maybe it just helps him remember better considering he not only has to keep track of all the real names but all the stage names as well. I’m guessing Marco is Latin as Jason has a tendency to give the HIspanic models rather Hispanic sounding names: Elian, Julian, again you get the drift. Rudy had the strange haircut, but was a very skilled bottom. He could take it. And I thought he was hot.

von schlomo says:

Overthinking something implies I’m placing importance upon the details? I guess if I attempt to make a point using details that’s contrary to your statement then you can tell me I’m spending too much time in the details. It’s kinda funny that you think I’m overthinking things when our entire conversation is about fairly esoteric details of gay pornography.

What is the connection between Abel and Cain insofar as Corbin Fisher? Too, what is the connection between Lucas and Rudy? Rudy was mostly a bottom and has 20 scenes? Lucas was mostly a top and has 120 scenes? Its hard to tell as I think the Corbin Fisher site counts the same scenes twice, or more. From about 2005 to 2015, if Dawson wasn’t the face of the site, Lucas was. I suspect most Corbin Fisher members have forgot about Rudy. And of those that remember Rudy, maybe one out of 1000 know that Lucas’ real name is Rudy.

Typically, and this has been going on for decades with literally thousands of performers and everyone involved in the production of porn, real names of porn performers are strongly urged not to be used, especially anywhere in and around work. Real names become part of the legal paperwork involved but are not working names. Almost every porn performer has a strong interest in NOT having their real name become public and the easiest and best way to firewall against it is for everyone to learn and use your porn name.

The name Marco is Italian and while Italian is a Latin language, most people do not include Italians when they use Latin or Latino or Hispanic or “Spanish”. In any event, its fine if you want to think of Marco as being “Latin” or whatever, just like Marc. Enjoy! I just don’t think he looks particularly anything but I hope he comes back and in tact as he is here!

Jasper Taft says:

Now wait just a minute, Lucas wasn’t even around from 2011 – 2015, so I don’t know how he could be “the face of the site” if he was retired in those years. I would argue Connor, and to a slightly lesser extent, Josh and maybe some others were.

Marco is both an Italian and a Latin name. Actually, the first Marco I thought of was Marco Rubio, who is Cuban-American.

von schlomo says:

OMG so sorry…he was second fiddle to the face of the site from 2005 to 2011. My bad. Only 6 years. OMG LOL

Connor is as dull as they come..he’s a work horse. Wow, what a boring personality. He appeared in so many scenes because he was part of the production team. The people who went bat shit for Connor were dickmatized on his rocking body which only appeared after he shot for a period of time being in shape but not chiseled and then there was a big dick but the poor thing came about 6 drops….drip, drip, drip. Boring Connor turned in many, many samey, robotic, plastic, phoning it in scenes over the years. I like Josh in many, many ways but he wasn’t ever the face of the site, no matter how you slice it. You see, I hate Dawson so I can remember very well all those years where folks around here would go on and on and on about Dawson. Josh never had that fan base. Sure, I’d put Josh as the face of the site, but its not up to me. Jason Gibson had some kind of love affair with Dawson, real or imagined. He was Corbin Fisher royalty.

Marco Rubio might be Cuban or whatever he is, but is it not certainly possible that a person who is Hispanic has an Italian derived name? Ted Cruz is Marco’s buddy in the Senate but we don’t think of Ted when we think of Hispanics, do we? LOL I’m not a scholar or an expert but there is always Wikipedia:

“Marco is an Italian masculine given name of Latin origin, derived from Marcus. The name is common in Italy, Austria, Portugal, the Netherlands and Switzerland. It derives from the Roman god Mars.”

But, who cares about the origin of names, right? Its mostly about this Marco, a Corbin Fisher porn performer who you think is Latin and who I think might be part “Latin”, whatever that means, but since many or most guys these days are mixtures of lots of different things, who cares? He’s not ethnic enough to score bonus points, is he?

Jasper Taft says:

Actually, I have to amend something I said previously, I don’t think any one person is the face of the site, either now or in the past. The great thing about Corbin Fisher is that they have always had a steady stream of good-great looking models in their stable. For me, It has never been a ‘I just signed up for….’ site, it’s been a ‘I signed up for x, y and z’ and a bunch of other guys site. Dawson and Connor just decided to make it a career rather than just a side-job for a few years like most models.

Lucas’s last scene was in 2010, unless those Australia/New Zealand scenes with Dawson were from 2011. I can’t really tell since they were old CFS updates that were recently put on the regular site with 2018 dates. I would argue the real Lucas (the one I know and love) had his last scene even before 2010 because his later updates had him with that haircut that was more clean-cut. That was not the Lucas I know. The real Lucas was the shaggy-haired surfer-farmer from 2005-2009.

I always find it amusing when some posters consistently talk about things like lighting, editing, the décor, camerawork, plots, personality, etc. For the most part, I don’t care about any of that. Quite simply, a video has to have at least one guy I’m attracted to in it. If it doesn’t, I’m not getting off to it. There’s one poster on here who looks for an Oscar-worthy performance from every model in every scene. To hell with that. I’m just here for hot guys fucking, Period. And I think, at the end of the day, that’s what we’re all here for.

Jason was smart to push Connor as hard as he did. Connor was like a buff version of Leonardo DiCaprio. Maybe more chubby in his early days, but I’m a face person, not so much a body person. He saw the potential, ran with it and it paid dividends.

Josh must have had a large fan base. To me, he was a good (but not great) looking model. But that guy was in practically every collection they ever put out. He was in Tres Fecheros, he was in the Bel Ami series, he was in Scandinavia, he was in Costa Rica. You don’t get to that point by not having a faithful following. I’m not going back and reading every comment from the 7 years he was around to get the most precise account possible, but the man had his fan base.

Who cares about ethnicities? I care. Corbin Fisher has been lambasted for nearly all of its 14 year existence for supposedly not having enough racial minorities in their updates. I like all types of guys, and I would venture to guess most people here do as well. Again, going back to what I said earlier, Corbin Fisher has never been about one guy or even one type of guy. People want variety. Some days, I want to fap to two white guys getting it on. Others days, a black and a white. Others, a Latin and a white or maybe 2 Latins and a white. Other days, an Asian and a white.

And lastly, Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz are not friends. Nobody is friends with Ted Cruz. Nobody likes him. He won re-election because he had the R next to his name, but Texas would have voted for a piece of roadkill if it was a republican. But Ted is disliked by virtually everyone on Planet Earth.

von schlomo says:

Look, the “face” of the site is a simple criterion. Dawson sat above all the others for his tenure, in every respect, whether you agree with the criterion, or not. Dawson was also the face of the site, not only in spirit, but also you click on the website and there is his face! For years! I DON’T EVEN LIKE DAWSON and I know this. It’s obvious that Dawson was the favorite for Gibson but also to Corbin Fisher fans. The only negative comments that came in for Dawson was those who got sick of him being the face of the site and appearing in 300 scenes.

I’m so happy for you that you don’t think like everyone else!

How do you know Jason Gibson is the reason Connor decided to get a body makeover? One of those Pete’s Attic interviews? When people say stuff like that and don’t mention how they know it, I always wonder. Do you know Jason Gibson and Connor personally?

As for your saying Corbin Fisher isn’t about a type of guy. I guess that’s something easily argued from either side, isn’t it? I know I could easily spend a paragraph arguing that 95% of Corbin Fisher models are almost all exactly the same. Then I’m sure you could simply take all the Corbin Fisher models and then plot them on a chart and make all your points to support your theory of their diversity by dropping the names of the black ones and the gay ones and Latino ones and how they all have different builds and different hair and some are short and some are tall. See how all that works? Here’s one point of view. Compared to all of gay porn or even the top 10 gay porn sites, Corbin Fisher is one of the most homogeneous. How many Asians has Gibson trotted out for us? More Asians than Bel Ami! Winner, winner, chicken dinner!!!

My politics comment…you take it all so seriously. The point was about MARCO versus TED, two guys who happen to be Republicans in the Senate from Hispanic families but Ted isn’t very Hispanic sounding, is it? Who cares if they are TRULY buddies? LOL How well they get along and how much they like each other are irrelevant. LOL PS We all know everyone hates Ted Cruz, thanks! ROFL

Jasper Taft says:

Why the sarcasm? Look, as I said, Dawson was popular, but so were a lot of other guys. Brent had a rabid following. So did Logan. So did Cade, Trevor, Lucas, and on and on. Him being on the front page means nothing. Corbin Fisher only got rid of Dave (Elye) on their front page just recently, and he had been there for nearly a year after he left there (for another studio) and probably the only reason his image was removed when it was due to the site redesign. It probably would still be up there if the redesign occurred later or never. I also think you’re somewhat minimalizing the negative Dawson comments. Again, I don’t care to go back and reread them all, but there were quite a few of them and they even coined the “Gramma Dawson” moniker, which was quite insulting.

CF is diverse, but they do tend to feature buff, A & F, “All-American (I hate that term) models and not so much on the twinks. No, I don’t know for a fact Jason was the reason Connor bulked up, but I think that reasonably can be concluded. It’s also probably the reason there haven’t been a lot of Asians on the site. Asians are, by nature, not a large people and also tend to not be gym rats, and mostly gravitate towards careers that use their brains not body. They had Cody, whom I liked, and I would like to see more Asians on the site.

As for the diversity aspect, again, I don’t care to go back and do all the math. Maybe you have the time. I don’t. Corbin Fisher has had a lot of black models, but many of them just do solos or otherwise aren’t around for a long period of time. Maybe on other sites, the models of color stay longer? I don’t know. It’s a touchy subject and not one I care to discuss at any great length. And additionally, a person has to ask what is an acceptable percentage? Is 5% enough? 10%? 15%? 25%

von schlomo says:

Sarcasm makes it more interesting and entertaining to write and more fun to read. You sound serious. Have fun!

I covered the Dawson negative comments earlier when I said a group of people mostly started bitching because of TOO MUCH Dawson. The complaint was in large part based on the fact he was so prominent and popular, make sense? The other part of the complaints was that, oddly enough, Dawson was around so many years he was aging. Again, one person who loves Dawson wants to see him more and more and the other person likes him less and less the more he shows up. Yeah?

Him being on the front page was my point. The fact that it wasn’t your point doesn’t mean Dawson wasn’t hugely popular for his ten years, so much so, that he has/had the record for number of scenes AND, as an added bonus, his attitude and personality was seemingly loved by Jason Gibson as he just kept using him over and over and over and his face showed up on the main page. But yes, none of that makes any sense or difference. Move along. LOL

All the models you mentioned and many more were all also hugely popular and appeared in many scenes and had tons of fans. This fact doesn’t negate the other one.

It can be reasonably concluded because? Maybe “Connor” decided to create Connor 2.0’s body based on any number of things. Are you saying, it can be reasonably concluded that most or all changes or improvements with Corbin Fisher performers were due to, what was it, Gibson’s strong urges? Since Connor 1.0’s body was fit enough and like many other’s builds, I don’t know why anyone would have leaned on him and said, dude, your body really needs to improve in order to be more successful here. Maybe Connor wanted more work and asked for advice and then made it happen all by himself. We don’t know these things. They are all just possibilities.

I think you are getting into studios and directors and owners and the rules or list of things that they urge all models to do, like not shaving their pubes or really doing any major grooming without consultation or without letting the studio’s makeup person do the grooming that conforms to the look that the studio wants in order to satisfy its members…like avoiding weird haircuts, especially Mohawks or other instances where you can’t put the hair back on. I should imagine in the beginning they explain to the model that if they want to come back for more work then the studio has certain expectations of them, one of which would be their appearance, from head to toe. Probably telling them to check before getting racist tattoos, etc. Of course, models don’t follow what’s asked all the time.

Do you have any Asian, specifically Japanese porn that was actually made over there? While there’s not as many cute, buff, young Japanese guys running around the US as there are in Japan, maybe, but your generalizations are telling us there’s hardly any “Asians” on Corbin Fisher because they’re mostly not large, don’t hang out in gyms and don’t seek work showing off their appearances because they’d rather use their brains. I wonder to what extent any of that is true. I think, its as least as much Corbin Fisher isn’t all that interested in hiring Asian performers. BTW, sometimes, when we list off a bunch of stereotypes, we kinda sound like we don’t get out as much. Did Jason Gibson avoid using openly gay performers because they mostly are effeminate and have high pitched voices? The lack of openly gay performers say from 2005 until Quinn came along was due to Gibson having such a hard time finding masculine gay guys who actually knew how to throw a football?

Yes, lets not go back and do any kind of treatment of the past. That would be foolhardy and of no value. I don’t think Corbin Fisher is the only player out there overlooking Asians, but they certainly seem to be just like so many others.

As for black models, there certainly has been a lot more in the near term than going back all the way, hasn’t there? But, there was probably about 8-10 years when there was about a half dozen, maybe? (Esp if you exclude models who did not return for a gay scene) I know, more math to figure out the percentage. Most people can look at how many models go thru in a years time and then see 1 or 2 black performers and probably not boldly claim, “Diversity!”. LOL An acceptable percentage? Maybe representation? I’m not even one of the armchair race in porn experts around here so this isn’t really my strongest ability but what percentage is 2 of 40? 5% I think. That’s not much, is it?

Damn! And I was going to make this short! Fuck! Like in A River Runs Through It, I need to go back upstairs and come back with it half as long! ROFL

Jasper Taft says:

Popularity isn’t the sole factor in determining how many scenes a performer gets. I would imagine it plays some part, yes. But to that extent, Henry was not popular and had a fair amount of scenes.

There are basically three kinds of porn performers: ones who come for a solo or a few vids for some quick extra cash, ones who are looking for a slightly longer go of it (say a few months or a few years) and are looking to pay their way through college or a new house or whatever, and the ones who stick around for years and years and more or less make a career out of it. Nearly all of the models on Corbin Fisher would fit one of the first two categories. It happens Dawson, and to that extent, Connor, fit the latter category. Since Corbin Fisher almost assuredly fudges their rating system, it’s impossible to truly know how popular each model is with the subscribers.

I don’t know that Corbin Fisher ever set out to make Dawson “the star” of the company. That could have fallen to a number of guys. Had Logan not been attacked, he could have been it. And to that extent, he had been around longer and could rank right up there, popularity-wise. Brent was stronger and IMO better looking, the mantle could have been his if he wanted it. Or Cody or any number of guys I’m sure.

Interesting you would use Corbin’s real name after lecturing me on the importance of protecting model’s identities. Incidentally, I do know some models names that are known to probably nobody else on here, but I choose to keep that information secret to protect models identities. I learned Truman’s real name and city of residence after sending him an item on his Amazon wish list. But I sure as fuck didn’t go around parading that info to everyone on here.

I’ve stated before I think the vast majority of models to have ever appeared on Corbin Fisher are/were probably bisexual. There were also some gay and some straight. There were probably also some models who hadn’t been attracted to men but enjoyed guy-guy sex, and some models who discovered their sexuality by working on the site. It’s really easy to speculate Corbin Fisher rarely if ever hired gay people back in the day without knowing more info.

I don’t know about Asians. I’ve looked multiple times in the past for quality Asian porn and I usually come up bankrupt. Most of what I find fits the “fat, ugly, bald, creepy old white man fucking an Asian twink” or Asians otherwise being humiliated and dominated in the scenes or the amateur x-tube stuff where neither of the models heads are visible. That isn’t what I’m looking for. Asians topping white guys are something that appeals to me, but gah, it’s extremely hard to find. But yeah, you’re right, that isn’t something limited to Corbin Fisher.

And you are right on another thing also, your posts are too long!

von schlomo says:

You are absolutely the best at always coming up with some point to argue and negate every point I make. You don’t seem to realize that your point of view and my point of view aren’t mutually exclusive. There can be more than one co-existing points of view.

I will now abandon my telling you how Dawson was by almost every metric the face of the site for about ten years. You won’t accept it, no matter what. The point is either irrelevant or it is real but false.

I didn’t lecture anyone on using real names. Go back and re-read. I instead was questioning you on how you drew connections between models being given names on Corbin Fisher that were actually the real, legal names of other Corbin Fisher models. Lucas/Rudy.

Jason Gibson’s real name is not only public but everyone on here knows it. Who cares?

There’s an entire industry of Japanese gay porn made over there, hundreds of “movies”. It’s fine that you don’t know about them, but just keep in mind that you don’t.

The longer my posts are, the more what you’ve said has hurt my head thinking about it and I then I get diarrhea of the mouth. Its hard to decide even where to begin on all the stuff you say.

Let’s just assume for a moment that you are the best informed Corbin Fisher porn person in the world, who is not on the inside. Even tho you have volumes and volumes of information in which to form your theories on the inner workings of the company, you are still speculating. It’s educated guessing. To some extent what you say is “probably” true. I think people like that forget that they’re only guessing but instead KNOW as they are able to write 4 pages with tons of references to make any point about the company and its products that they could ever want to. They also think they KNOW because they know better than someone else.

Jasper Taft says:

Hello Pot, it’s the kettle calling!

If you notice, I started off with a small post. 39 words to be exact. You chimed in with a longer post. I responded with another fairly brief post. You responded with a long post arguing with everything I just said. This back-and-forth continued with you seemingly making every subsequent post longer and longer and finding issue with everything *I* said.

“Almost every porn performer has a strong interest in NOT having their real name become public”.

And in regards to one thing I missed, Lucas was not primarily a top. He was versatile, as most of the models on Corbin Fisher end up being. Off the top of my head, he bottomed for Cade, Dawson (several times), Logan, Brent, Josh, Connor (several times), Dante and probably numerous others.

von schlomo says:

Do you like Blake Mitchell? I could send you some good stuff with him and his new man. Or, maybe you already have it.

Jasper Taft says:

I didn’t know who you were talking about, so I looked him up. Fugly. Thanks but no thanks.

von schlomo says:

Fine. You’ll get nothing and like it.

Prickly bastard…

Jasper Taft says:

is that you in your avatar? I always envisioned you as 800 pounds, but figured you were 70 years old or so, so I wasn’t sure.

von schlomo says:

Uh, yes. I’m 74, bald, morbidly obese and I smell. People who are 800 pounds barely walk. I can walk into the Walmart but I get one of those powered shopping chairs.

Why? Are you into old, fat, nasty men?

Tempest says:

May I suggest to ignore Jasper Daft altogether? The bitch has been created with the sole purpose of being an attention seeking, trouble making, shit eating hooker that will take every chance he gets to start a fight without any reason with other users

von schlomo says:

Or, it could be I don’t find all these connections interesting or energizing because I don’t particularly care for Tom or Cameron or Rudy and I do very much like Jeff, Logan and Lucas.

Ed Stoneback says:

Very attractive hot young Louisianna hunk Latin? Nice shaped nicely hairy body minimul tats so far great love to see more of hunky hairy built Marco

david david says:

He’s mighty fine! I need this guy back.

Sushi says:

Seems like the kind of model who won’t return….which is too bad. 😳

Kevin says:

I don’t really need this.

Wahlberliner says:

Love the body hair on Marco, especially his ass!

Jasper Taft says:

Attractive and muscular. Love the hairy legs and ass. Is he Hispanic? The name sounds it. Hope he returns. Corbin Fisher needs this. WE need this.

von schlomo says:

His face is good and his body is great, tho neither are outstanding but I can tell you what is outstanding. The hair on his body is damn near perfect. It’s either totally untouched or very, very lightly. Kids at home, this is how guys are supposed to look.

He doesn’t have porn star worthy biggus dickus but I love the angle of the dangle, as William Higgins likes to say. The one little bible verse coordinates I can totally overlook given the high quality otherwise.

DaveAtom says:

Is a yes from me. Hot, nice body, enough hairy in the right places (those pits, woof). Max needs to eat that hairy ass!!!

Colton, The Major Hussy says:

Very nice, love the natural hair on his body.
But will he be back? *fingers crossed

No_No_No_Yes says:

Calm down girls, these bitches haven’t closed a deal in a while now. He’s cute – I get it, but try and keep it in perspective lol. I am not celebrating anything till I see his ass in the air.

EDIT: That said, he looks like a fuzzy version of Cain…

Tempest says:

Cain’s arms alone are bigger than this dude, don’t be trippin’ now. They look nothing alike, I think Ms. Marco is more on the thicc side if anything.

paultacoma51 says:

It’s a YES for me!

von schlomo says:

How ya been, Paul? :) Any YouTubers news of note?

And I wholeheartedly AGREE. YES! for me, too.

paultacoma51 says:

Von, buddy! Been doing fine. Moved to an apartment so have been busy. Been hospitalized when I should’ve been packing, and then was too weak to do much of anything. But the move happened anyway even though it was far from a pretty sight! Now that the dust has settled I finally have a moment to spend here. Let’s just say I haven’t watched any Youtube but I have cleaned up my Watch Later queue and am ready to get into. It’ll take some time. I think I have something like 60 videos to watch, lol!

von schlomo says:

Oh no! I hate packing/moving and that’s when I’m not sick. I thought it had been awhile since I saw you here but admittedly sometimes I only visit a couple times a week.

I can’t remember if I told you, but I read a bunch of guys talking about the Mark & Ethan breakup and most of them said it appears to be much more about manipulating how their fans/viewers see them than about their relationship on the rocks. And it was coming from guys who spend 100 times more effort consuming everything that is Mark/Ethan social media and analyzing it than I’ve ever done.

paultacoma51 says:

Oh yes, moving is to be serious about it is something I hate with a passion. I would rather have a root canal or give birth if it were possible. Moving is a young person’s thing. It’s something I did a lot of in my younger days, and I only moved this time because I absolutely had to. The owners of my house were selling it and I stayed even after everyone else moved out, lol! That’s how much I hate moving.

About Mark & Ethan, that makes a lot of sense. I can def see them deciding that their viewership needed a boost and this would be a good way to do it. Altho only time will tell if it was a good decision or not. I admit I do have a small crush on Ethan. So I hope I haven’t missed out on anymore break-ups?

von schlomo says:

Yeah and when you are young, you can much more easily get your also young friends to help you move but seems like once you get past about age 40 your friends aren’t able to help and one must hire movers. Actually, if you aren’t moving very far and don’t have 3000 square feet of house to move, movers aren’t as spendy as you’d think.

I think I maybe told you that, I, too, prefer Ethan over Muscles Mark. So, you’ll have to fight me over him! LOL Setting aside porn and my porn preferences insofar as much as you can consciously, Ethan is much more my type of guy in the real world (than Mark). I’ve been mostly bored with Mark E Miller videos for quite some time so some I skip and I rarely watch them ASAP.

I do not know of any breakups but Andrew Neighbors has a new place in LA, I think.

paultacoma51 says:

Lol! Yeah, we’ll have to share Ethan. Mark was okay back in the day; but he’s lost his youthful good looks and maybe I’ll need to adjust to seeing him grow older.

Yes, I’ll have to watch Andrew’s video. His instagram is pretty hot. He’s come such a long way. It’s like he’s coming into his own in his life and seems much more confident about his body…more free. I wonder if he gets a new bf if he’ll introduce him to us or be cautious until he’s more secure about where it’s going.

von schlomo says:

I’m under the impression Andrew is continually and completely limiting his exposure, physically and in every other way, because he’s this big professional doctor guy, ya know? Everything you see on his social media and everything that comes out of his mouth is the edited, censored, PG-13 version because he doesn’t ever want a patient of his to bring up something too personal in a closed room when he’s trying to examine their eyeballs. Like, “oh, you really like vibrating butt plugs, do you”? Or, you’re really a big whore on Grindr?

paultacoma51 says:

Lol! Okay, I’ll give you that. Never considered that before but you are so right about Andrew. Even his “erotic” photos are well done and in good taste. More like art, which is ok by me. I recently saw a nude photo of him on IG and it was a side-view, I think and kinda in shadow. Very artsy and quite beautiful. But as you said, he has to keep things clean for his public, professional image. I don’t begrudge him. Hell, I’m pretty PG myself, lol! I think I might not like him if he started on butt plugs…NOT! But I tend to think this is actually the real him. I don’t think he’s all that dirty behind closed doors. I could be wrong…you know how it is with those quiet types. They’re the worst of the bunch!

von schlomo says:

Welcome back!

I hesitate to become too confidant about knowing the REAL Andrew just based on his videos or SM. But, I do get the real impression, as you alluded, that he’s fairly vanilla. Small “c” conservative. Which is kinda naive and more basic and traditional and NOT wild in hardly any way, which is exactly the type of guy you would expect that would choose to be a doctor and complete the education, training and testing and enter practice, ya know? And, I think as you pointed out in an earlier conversation, Andrew is still very young. Certainly not always, but generally, younger people tend to be more conventional, especially sexually, and have more narrow attractions and stimulations. Their notions of the types of guys that they’re attracted to and the types of sexual activities they enjoy are usually more limited at say age 25 than age 45.

Guys like the ones we discuss, especially Andrew who’s the DDS, can tend to come across as very mature in some ways but that doesn’t always mean they’re mature in every way.

paultacoma51 says:

So true. Agreed on all points. I remember as a teen and into my 20s I had a very narrow idea of what was attractive to me. Then I met this guy who I so not attracted to at first. But he kinda grew on me, and over the years what I find attractive has grown exponentially. So it is very true; younger people have limited vision, most likely due to lack of life experience. You hit on Andrew being conservative; I know I was. To become a DDS you have to have a certain amount of discipline and focus to complete the years of education. I confess to not having that at his age. Took me many years later just to finish my bachelor’s.

Changing subject, so sorry to hear about Penny Marshall. I really liked her. She never gave a fuck what people thought about her. She’ll be missed!

von schlomo says:

Oops, I got confused! I went searching to verify I had the right initials for Optometrist and short circuited and Dentist popped into my head so I found DDS where I should have typed O.D., not to be confused with D.O., which I think is a doctor of Osteopathy. O.D. is Doctor of Optometry. LOL

More seriously, you hit the nail on the head. It’s ALL about experience, life experience…which forms, guides, informs and influences us in every way.

As for Penny Marshall, I’m not broadly well-read with entertainment so I actually didn’t know she was a director and instead only remember her sitcom, Laverne & Shirley. While she directed several films I’ve heard of, I’ve never seen any of them as maybe they’re not really my type. I’m famously not generally into comedies. I have a unique sense of humor and I need my comedy to be a certain way. Big Hollywood comedies aren’t my thing. But, I see she was the first female director whose film grossed over 100 million dollars.

paultacoma51 says:

Yeah, I honestly can’t say I’ve seen but a few of her movies. Jumpin Jack Flash and Awakenings were good. But I’m like you in the sense that I don’t go for mainstream comedy, or at least I don’t watch them. I recently discovered Mom on CBS with Allison Janney. The show is hilarious with a very talented cast. It has the type of gallows humor that is both adult and darkly funny as well as sexual.

von schlomo says:

I actually love Allison Janney, ever since I fell in love with West Wing so many years ago. And I’m not super obsessed with dozens of women like the stereotype. I saw years back that she had that show but I never tried it as I just assumed it was your typical sitcom. I see on Comcast it airs on the Paramount Network and some of the episodes are on On Demand. I should try it but like everyone I have a DVR 95% full of “all my shows that I never watch!”. LOL

paultacoma51 says:

LOL! I thought I was the only one who filled up the DVR and didn’t have time to watch anything. Just like my Youtube. Not enough hours in the day. Well, at least I’ll be on vacation in 2 weeks. I can hold out till then.

von schlomo says:

I do honestly think the DVR should have more space as its designed to be a household DVR and I’m the only one using it. What would happen if 3-4 people were DVR’ing? But, if it held a thousand things I’d have it filled up eventually! In addition to “all my shows I never watch” there’s all those movies I liked that I will want to watch again and all the NCAA wrestling to perv over!!! LOL

paultacoma51 says:

ok now you have to tell me about the NCAA wrestling. I haven’t been able to find it. But yeah, I actually got my dvr down to 60% which is about as far as I can go. I tend to “watch” some programs while I work, so that’s when I try to catch up.

von schlomo says:

Sounds like you already know that college wrestling is pretty much softcore gay porn only your dad and many other people think its a sport! LOL Anyway, there have been about a dozen or so matches televised so far this season, mostly on BTN (Big Ten Network). ESPN’s channels carried a few. The season runs November thru March, pretty close to right alongside NCAA basketball. Right now is kinda a break until Jan 6 where BTN will have about another dozen. ESPN might also carry a few more. I’ve looked everywhere for just a simple consolidated 2018-19 NCAA Division 1 wrestling schedule for broadcast TV and no luck. BTN’s site shows their broadcast schedule for wrestling but not ESPN’s. The National NCAA championships will definitely be on ESPN’s sites running March 21-23 with a 3 hour session early and another 3 hour session in the evening each day. Obviously, the nation’s very best wrestlers will compete and your DVR will need 18 hours for continued enjoyment…over and over and over. hehe Another thing you can do is search your DVR’s program guide for something like “college wrestling”. I think BTN is pretty common on Dish Network, DirecTV & Comcast, without subscribing to extra sports channels or packages…dunno about others.

paultacoma51 says:

Aw, that’s too bad. I have Spectrum. I’ll do a search to see if anything exists. Actually, me and those sexy singlets go way back to early adolescence when I discovered an old wrestling book…I think at my grandfather’s house. He said I could keep it and boy was that a revelation. I had many a “private session” involving that book, lol! It was so old all the photos were black & white, but that didn’t bother me a bit. And recently, I’ve seen a good share of pics on the internet or Youtube of all the sexy crotch grabbing and grinding that goes on and the rare erection. Another fav are soccer clips. I had no idea crotch grabbing and tender kissing went on in international games! I suppose it’s not a big deal in other countries. So I’ve added another fetish to my collection. Thanks for the tip!

von schlomo says:

My dad has Spectrum and while I think that which particular cable box you have depends on if you are legacy Spectrum or another cable company Spectrum acquired, I know his cable box and its features and its overall ease of use is not nearly as nice as Comcast’s X1 platform. Specifically, the number of tuners. His box has only 2 tuners while mine has 5. That’s a major problem. Searching for stuff on X1’s program guide, On Demand, etc is easy typing with the remote or you can use the voice commands…even easier, if you aren’t self conscious speaking to inanimate objects. LOL I think my program guide only has 2 weeks of stuff and right now searches aren’t finding any NCAA wrestling but, like I said, there seems to be a break until Jan 6, at least with televised matches. Oh, there’s one match showing for Jan 4 on PAC12 channel, 3pm Pacific, Michigan at Oregon State. PAC12 is in a sports package I don’t get. Maybe since you are in the Pac12 conference area, you might get it included.

Was the old wrestling book like an instructional? Ya still have it? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5bdfe39976ee4f2d6f5310c68a257d8fdd9a76d35dc8d5eb7318d7f740bbcf60.jpg

Working Out by Charles Hix with photography by Ken Haak, as I recall, was a book which included exercise tutorials but also grooming and other “man” stuff but, as I’m sure you can intuit from the photos, it was very homoerotic and appealed to any guy with any attractions or appreciations of natural, fitness model type guys and because it was 1983, the war on hair hadn’t begun and the models had hair where hair was supposed to be and there weren’t articles on how to shave, wax or nair your armpits, pubes, crotch, legs, arms or anything else. Still available on Amazon! Its a large format paperback.

paultacoma51 says:

Yeah, unfortunately, our choices are limited to what area you live in. Spectrum has all of Cleveland and many of it’s suburbs so I’m out of luck getting Comcast. I can’t say that I’m happy with it, but what can you do?

That dusty old wrestling book is long gone. I must have discarded it 30 moves ago, lol! But I actually purchased Working Out when it was published and am embarrassed to think how long ago that was. Yes, I had many a daydream about the models in that book. I think I even drew a few of them. I also bought Looking Good too. That was during my GQ period when I thought I could be a model, and obsessively studied it’s pages every month. Ah, the stupidity of youth! It was all about designer labels, skincare, art, fine dining and culture. Sometimes I miss those days! As you said, men looked “natural’ with all their hair intact. It’s funny, but it seemed like all the models I drew back then later went onto become actors. I was big into portraiture. I plan to get back into it before I’m too old & decrepit to hold a stick of chalk steady. The sad thing is all those pictures are gone. I gave away so much artwork (sigh).

Anyway, thanks for the trip down memory lane. The 80s will never come back.

von schlomo says:

And to think, I thought Working Out was somewhat obscure! LOL You know all about it. hehe

If you aren’t able or willing to get DirecTV or Dish Network, then you’re stuck with cable, unless you are lucky enough to have fiber. Too, sometimes the TV part of fiber isn’t competitive with cable. I ASSumed you were in Tacoma, WA when I said you were in the PAC12 conference. Ohio is Big Ten country so you might have it.

I hear ya on the moves. I’ve only moved a half a dozen times but that was plenty for me to trim down and just not OWN so much stuff. Its all too tempting to build a library of books or movies or whatever OR get into collecting something. Sucks having to pack and move it, tho. So, instead of having 150 books, I have a dozen or so that are important or have special meaning, nostalgia in the case of Working Out.

paultacoma51 says:

So true about being minimalist. I’ve learned the hard way. I went on a porn buying binge for about 5 years and at the end I had boxes of VHS tapes that I had to throw away on the next move. That was a lot of money down the tubes! If I could have, I probably would’ve kept it all, but who has the room for all that. And tapes don’t last indefinitely anyway.

Don’t I wish I was on the West Coast! Always wanted to move to Tacoma or Seattle. I did live in the Bay area for a year, but that didn’t last. I do believe we’re getting Fiber soon, but right now, Spectrum has reasonable speeds. I have 400 mbs now which is the 2nd fastest they offer for my area. It fits my needs with downloading and working from home. So I’m satisfied for now.

von schlomo says:

And the thing with DVD, and especially VHS, once you’ve seen HD anything, who wants to go back? Make no mistake, there’s a good amount of great stuff that simply isn’t available in anything but standard definition, both in tape/disc format and digital. So, I have both. You are right, VHS tapes simply occupy too much space beyond a dozen or so. I have about 500 DVD porn movies from back in the early 2000’s, before Internet porn took off, and the beauty with discs is that they are COMPACT when you take the discs out of the packaging and put them into organizers. All told, they only take up about the same space as a large photography book about 3 feet long. Still, DVD at 720×480 and a bit on the fuzzy side compared to HD, I don’t watch them much.

Comcast offers Gigabit service now and its only about $100, so not TOO bad, but the main benefits of Fiber over cable is eliminating the annoying and potentially cumbersome SLOW upload bandwidth AND eliminating the data caps. A single person household might not burn thru an entire terabyte of data a month but if there’s others and there’s much HD streaming video of say Netflix or Hulu or Prime OR video game downloads or if you upload a lot of large files to share with friends or if you use an online backup service, 1TB is nothing. Comcast after suspending data caps for years re-introduced them this year and other companies have them, too. They sell an add-on Unlimited data plan that eliminates the 1TB data cap but you have to pay $40-50 extra, per month!

Say, would you like to chat privately? I can give you an e m ail address.

paultacoma51 says:

sure, why not?

von schlomo says:

Cool. It at ya hoo dot com

See ya!

paultacoma51 says:

I just realized I don’t have a chat app, lol! You’ll have to walk me thru it, as it’s been a while.

von schlomo says:

Just send me an e m ail to that address and we can fine tune things. :) I don’t use any messengers anymore either, like M SN or Ya hoo.

von schlomo says:

BTW, how can I find the Andrew Neighbors nude? I Googled and didn’t see anything. THANKS!

paultacoma51 says:

That’s the photo to which I was referring. As you can see, tastefully done nude, not a naked pic, lol!

von schlomo says:

Yeah, I wonder if it’s still on his Instagram? I know its not at all explicit but I’m still surprised he put it on the Internet. Frankly, a few of the skimpy, thin, wet speedos he’s posted are far more revealing, of the front, which is what would be scandalous, ya know. A butt mostly silhouette I don’t think would even scare grandma Moses too much.

Young Meesh says:

I don’t see it….LIKE AT ALL.

elyp says:

Let’s see if he comes back for gay scene and is actually good at it.
EDIT: NOPE. He’s already out on another site.

Colby Parr says:

Imagine being this fine.

Marcel Anthony says:

He is “Kain Rage” of the theguysite

Scrapple says:

I’ve never seen someone talk about how happy they are, while looking so sad. He didn’t perk up until he got his hands on his dick. Smiling like he just won the lottery.